Myriad Live 2017 with Will Dayble, Founder of Fitzroy Academy talks about Melbourne vs. Brisbane Ecosystem
Will Dayble, Founder of Fitzroy Academy about Melbourne Vs Brisbane ecosystemPosted by BeachCity on Thursday, March 30, 2017
Suzzanne: I think this is the funniest thing ever, right? Will has crossed out "speaker", to write "person. Why did you do that, Will?
Will Dayble: Because Ihad it the other way around, and then as soon as it would flop around to be black, students and people that are here would suddenly start to act different.
Suzzanne: Like they walk with the shoulders back, tall-
Will Dayble: They try to be like: "Yeah, I'm very serious, I know about start-ups, venture capital!"
Suzzanne: So everyone thinks you're a very important person?
Will Dayble: And I'm really not, straight up really not. It's just one little black piece of paper, that makes people act different.
Suzzanne: But what do you do anyways, your Fitzroy Academy, but what does Fitzroy Academy do?
Will Dayble: We're an online school for social impact. So we teach people how social impact stuff works.
Suzzanne: All right, let's talk about ... Early on we had a great conversation about the different cities, and culture, and the attitude about start-ups, right? So let's talk about Melbourne, how do you call Melbourne start-ups? He's originally from Melbourne, I'm from Melbourne myself.
Will Dayble: So for example the Fitzroy academy is based in Fitzroy, we're found there. And the Fitzroy joke for people that don't know about Melbourne is that Fitzroy equals "Fitzroyalty", which means it's not a short fixie ride from that ... Five minutes from Fitzroy doesn't exist, we don't go there.
Suzzanne: It's like a bubble there-
Will Dayble: It's like a bubble. It's totally a bubble, and even when you look at the map of Melbourne, sorry, a map of Victoria, and you look at the political spectrum, there's red and blue states labelled all over it, and there's this tiny little dot in the middle, that's green.
Suzzanne: It's green.
Will Dayble: And that's Melbourne.
Suzzanne: That's certainly Melbourne.
Will Dayble: And this tiny little weird chunk of Australia, that is strangely un-Australian.
Suzzanne: And Melbourne is all about arts, and creativity, and culture.
Will Dayble: And being slightly better than everyone else culturally.
Suzzanne: The cool [inaudible 00:02:00], the hipster vibes. And Sydney is all about fintech, the suits and the corporates.
Will Dayble: Well see, I think again, that is true, there's tonnes of corporate hype, tonnes of hype about fintech, lots of connexions with powerful people in government. There is also a massive undercurrent on social change movement, in the LGBTIQ movement, is massive in Sydney, there's a bunch of really cool stuff in Sydney, but yeah, everyone else knows about fintech.
Suzzanne: There are other things, you highlighted that. What do you think of Brisbane? You've been here for a couple of days already, you had a great festival.
Will Dayble: Brisbane is cool. Brisbane is ... I kind of feel like Brisbane is the Australia that I'm proud of, as an Australian.
Suzzanne: Our national identity kind of thing.
Will Dayble: Yeah I think that people from Melbourne, we really struggle with national identity, because Melbourne is in many ways very different to the rest of Australia, we have the accent, but we're like a tiny little London, or a tiny little New York, to the rest of Australia, or we want to be. Whereas in Brisbane, it's smaller than Melbourne, it's smaller than Sydney, and a lot of the pretence, and a lot of the bullshit just drops away, and people get stuff done.
Suzzanne: They're chilled.
Will Dayble: They're chilled out, yeah.
Suzzanne: You can have a conversation about hanging out with librarians.
Will Dayble: Yeah. Right. I've gone off there a few times with librarians, because obviously libraries are getting real, right now. Because books are not important anymore, I'd say.
Suzzanne: That's sad.
Will Dayble: Well, it's sad, but it isn't. Libraries are realising they are a community hub, and a way for the most underserved members of a population to have a place to come, and hang out and learn things, and be with other people, etc. And so the whole industry, the library industry, the library community, is just backflipping right now. And in Brisbane, more than other places in Australia, the librarians are loose.
Suzzanne: They are loose.
Will Dayble: They just party, they're really excited about their communities, they-
Suzzanne: They chill.
Will Dayble: They chill. Way less pretence. I noticed this thing recently where in direct proportion to how high the stakes are, the politics drops away. And vice-versa. When the stakes are low, the politics gets real high. When you're on top of your game, and there's very little competition, and there's nothing that's about to break, politics creeps in, and people start wearing the black lanyards and being all fancy and stuff. But then in Brisbane, they're the underdog to Melbourne and Sydney, so the stakes are low. Sorry, the stakes are really high, which means the politics are low, and people just get things done, whether it's libraries, whether it's start-ups, or-
Suzzanne: This makes me excited, because when Sydney talks, and they're in this actual lot now, talks. I just want to be able to get to the job. And it's probably one of the things I want to emphasise as start-ups, if you get your done, there's a level of credibility you'll find in talking.
Will Dayble: Actually, all credit to Mary and Martin, they have done an incredible job at getting together people that are professional doers, not professional speakers. My favourite talk so far, has been by this wonderful rocket scientist called Patty from Adelaide, and he's got to be the least personally aware speaker I've seen. He's excited about what he does, he's excited to tell people about it, and he's not polished-
Suzzanne: He's authentic.
Will Dayble: Yeah, really. And it's almost like we almost overuse this word, authentic, to the point where it's meaningless, but he is.
Suzzanne: He is. Authentic in many ways, he is the person who is just being real, and they're being articulate, they're just being themselves.
Will Dayble: Yeah. And there's a lot of that here. A lot of ... I've been hanging around and talking to people over coffees and stuff, and people are ... Maybe it's the vibe here, or maybe it's just Brisbane, I don't know, but people are being really quick to share how they're feeling.
Suzzanne: And also willing to help. "This is what I want to do. Yeah, let me help you."
Will Dayble: Yeah, that's the thing I had on my mind. First ... Was it the first or second talk we had, Pip Marlowe from Suncorp, corporate. Corporate is evil to me-
Will Dayble: Because I'm a little punk kid. But there's this incredibly powerful man from a big corporation, and the main thing she had to say was: "How can I help?" And it's like: "Okay, cool, now you're speaking my language." There are people like that and situations like that, that are using the same language and the same approach, as the punk kids that are coding, and building rockets and stuff, and that's incredible.
Suzzanne: So the whole recap of the conversation is, there's a sense of excitement where we're just getting stuff done, and people are creating channels, where you just want to get started and stuff done. That's kind of the vibe we're getting from Brisbane.
Will Dayble: Yeah, totally. Yesterday I've showed, you I've spoken about this before, but yesterday the sky has opened out and vomited rain on everything, and they shutdown at 12.
Suzzanne: And everyone started working like crazy.
Will Dayble: Right.
Suzzanne: It's kind of a beautiful existence.
Will Dayble: I think networking, as a term, undervalues the intimacy of the conversations the people are having. When the shit hits the fan, and it's literally flodded out, a whole bunch of people just sat down to have these ideas and talk, and I almost wonder if next year they're gonna try to manufacture another national emergency. So they can shutdown all events and speakers-
Suzzanne: It kind of ... The combustions, and collisions happening right now, I don't think you can mimic any more than that. But I hope they do mimic that collision where people just want to connect and network, connect and collaborate.
Will Dayble: Yeah it's evidence that people, the team that's running it. Because of the way they roll, Martin operates under pressure, when things go wrong, he's like: "Cool, now it's exciting." That attracts people that are like that, that, I hate the term but, they're comfortable being uncomfortable. They're into being a little chaotic. They attract theirs, and they attract theirs, and before you know it, there's this surprisingly large group of, what? Two thousand, two and a half thousand people here? That are all kind of into that idea, that little pretence. And that's-
Will Dayble: Primo.
Suzzanne: Let's leave it for that, and let's give you a high-five. Thank you for the awesome conversation. And ciao.